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STV_Keith
06-03-2008, 08:43 AM
Hey guys, I need a recommendation to a paint shop. Doesn't have to be concourse quality, super awesome stuff...just gloss black that doesn't have runs it in. :) Would love to find someone that can shoot Awlgrip or something else that stands up to the marine environment well.
Also, someone who can work on a fairly short turn around (2 weeks or less).
Suggestions?
Thanks!
Liquid Courage
06-04-2008, 07:48 AM
I have a fairly long list of places to avoid. Sorry I cannot help you, just thought I would waste space in this thread. If you can find a paint shop that does it right the first time, or even better finishes when they say I will be impressed.
I don't know how to paint, but I am really considering learning. I am so tired of the body shops.
THEY ALL SUCK SUCK SUCK
Body shops and paint places are more scum than used car salesman with slicked back hair.
Sorry to vent, enjoy your day.
kimswang
06-04-2008, 08:49 AM
I have a fairly long list of places to avoid. I am so tired of the body shops.
THEY ALL SUCK SUCK SUCK
Body shops and paint places are more scum than used car salesman with slicked back hair.
I agree, they do really suck. That is why I am painting my own s#*t. What is about to get a coat of black Keith?
panic button
06-04-2008, 10:13 AM
There was a place that I had mentioned last year, down off Russell and Decator. Can't remember the name...
Liquid Courage
06-04-2008, 10:52 AM
There was a place that I had mentioned last year, down off Russell and Decator. Can't remember the name...
How the hell we supposed to remember?
STV_Keith
06-04-2008, 12:48 PM
Kim, lower pans, mids and lower units.
PB, without seeing it, Spray Gun Auto Body quoted me $750. Seemed a lot steep to me.
Everything on the motor that is black here is what I need painted:
http://www.speedcraving.com/scarab/pics/images/DSCN5426.jpg
kimswang
06-04-2008, 01:03 PM
Have you asked Mycoo or one day paint?
sandman0_0
06-04-2008, 03:58 PM
I used Sunrise autobody in Henderson off Sunset a couple of years ago. They did a 2 stage paint job on my other truck and it came out really nice. They were in the mid range on pricing. I got 3 estamates and took the one in the middle. There shop is off the first left hand turn on sunset going east past 95. It sits way back from the road on the right between a couple of other buildings.
panic button
06-04-2008, 04:26 PM
Kim, lower pans, mids and lower units.
PB, without seeing it, Spray Gun Auto Body quoted me $750. Seemed a lot steep to me.
Everything on the motor that is black here is what I need painted:
http://www.speedcraving.com/scarab/pics/images/DSCN5426.jpg
Spray Gun is the place... They were recommended by several paint dealers and the place that did my powder coating.
Red Horse
06-04-2008, 06:03 PM
I did my trailer in metallic black.
Spraying is not that hard. Prep, Prep, Prep. then many thin coats with good dry time between for build then you put the shine on it with less dry time and then shoot a clear.
This is my jet pump that I did. Only pic I have at work...
BADFISH II
06-04-2008, 06:50 PM
Stupid question, but what does full gel work cost? I think PB got his quoted at one point - isn't it like 30K or something?
I don't know Keith, Tell whoever you find to do it I'll put up a link to them on the site if they cut you a dealio!! I'd do that for any premium member or someone who's been around here a long time.
G
kimswang
06-04-2008, 10:10 PM
Gelcoating can only be done while in the mold and can not be applied later. Some people use a resin that is pigmented and call it re gel, while this this is a strong type of re coloring a piece of fiberglass it is not gelcoat. The high end boats is always painted after they leve the mold anyway and an Awlgrip or Imron paint will give you a result that exceeds the gelcoat shine simply due to the fact that it is easier to polish.
STV_Keith
06-05-2008, 10:15 AM
Dunno about that Kim. The bottom of my STV had areas re-gelled by Willie at Industrial Fiberglass when I had it done up a few years back. Pretty common around these parts. It's not sprayed on like in the mold though, it's applied like putty, then sanded and buffed.
kimswang
06-05-2008, 10:32 AM
It is called re-gel. The gelcoat used to make your hull is sprayed in the form and will not cure on its own if left without glassing the rest. What they are doing is adding in filler called gelcoat.
sandman0_0
06-12-2008, 09:04 PM
You can apply actual gel coat on the exterior. I worked at Penn Yan boats for years and it was done all the time. They would spray on the gelcoat thinned with I think MEK then spray the mold release over it to kick it. You have no what you are doing or you will end up with a very bad orange peal. ( then wet sand your butt off) It is alot of work and I think only a few places still do it. I had a prop for a hotel show done at a place on tropicana east of boulder. Can't rember the name.
kimswang
06-13-2008, 02:18 AM
You can apply actual gel coat on the exterior. I worked at Penn Yan boats for years and it was done all the time. They would spray on the gelcoat thinned with I think MEK then spray the mold release over it to kick it. You have no what you are doing or you will end up with a very bad orange peal. ( then wet sand your butt off) It is alot of work and I think only a few places still do it. I had a prop for a hotel show done at a place on tropicana east of boulder. Can't rember the name.
You are right, but if you have ever seen somebody do it that is not a pro at it you will convince them to use Imron or similar coatings just like the high dollar boats is finished anyway. To first spray a coat that does not harden by itself and then is thinned out with MEK for so to finish it off with a kicker / hardener you know you are in for a massive job. Kinda like building a complete car and then add the frame at the end. I did it once on a 38 footer I had that got osmosis and it is the sole reason I hate sandpaper... It turned out looking like new, but the amount of work we put into it we might as well had bought a new boat. Hence the reason I tell people to forget about it and coat their boat in Imron or Awlgrip, which will give them far less work, far less $$$ out of pocket and more often than not a better result. Nevertheless, you are correct.
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