BEST MUFFLER SHOP [Archive]

2FORCEFULL

10-18-2006, 08:14 PM

BEST MUFFLER SHOP Â* 385-1934

WE ARE LOCATED AT 33N. 21ST LAS VEGAS Â*89101

we have a life time guarantee on the install including all welds and hangers, one year on the parts

here's some of our prices, you'll find they are the lowest around!

FLOWMASTER MUFFLERS..............from $99.95...installed

FLOWMASTER 3 CHAMBER....................129.95...installed

FLOWMASTER 2 IN 1 OUT ....................149.95...installed

FLOWMASTER 1 IN 2 OUT......................149.95...installed

FLOWMASTER CAT BACK DUAL TAILS
FITS MOST TRUCKS AND SUV's...............259.95...installed
Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* [crome tips extra]

FLO-PRO 4" DIESEL EXHAUST KITS...........449.95..installed
[we install as much of this kit as the law allows free]

HI FLOW CATALIC CONVERTERS Â*1 3/4"........89.95..installed
[we install cats for all the major dealers and auto repair shop in town and give dealer pricing to the public]
CAT PRICE'S GO UP $10 PER 1/4" IN PIPE SIZE

HI FLOW CATALIC CONVERTER 3''................130.00.installed

BIG FORD 460 CATS..................................500.00 installed

FROM SMALL REPAIRS TO COMPLETE RV EXHAUST SYSTEMS
WE DO IT ALL
HI-PERFORMANCE Â*OR Â*STOCK REPLACEMENT

CUSTOM WELDING Â*HEADER INSTALATION

OVER 30 YEARS SAME LOCATION FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED,
GIVE US A CALL 385-1934

NO APPOINTMENT NECESSARY, SAME DAY SERVICE USALLY WITH IN THE HOUR

OPEN 9 TO 6 MON-FRI. SAT. 9-3

BADFISH II

10-18-2006, 08:25 PM

Question - if I put a flowmaster on a new car does it void the warranty? I think it does, but not sure!

2FORCEFULL

10-18-2006, 08:43 PM

Ah, my first customer!!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/boobies.gif

No, in fact I install flows on new cars for the dealers, but yes it does void the warranty 0n the muffler you removed

anyone else with exhaust related questions? I will be glad to answer, I have too many years experience in this field

BADFISH II

10-18-2006, 08:57 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2FORCEFULL @ Oct. 18 2006, 8:43 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ah, my first customer!!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/boobies.gif

No, in fact I install flows on new cars for the dealers, but yes it does void the warranty 0n the muffler you removed

anyone else with exhaust related questions? I will glad to answer, I have too many years experience in this field[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
COOL! Want it not too loud though - for the Yukon, I think it's what - the three chamber? Had that on the Tahoe and it sounded awesome! Now Rude has it on the Tahoe http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

just another payment

10-18-2006, 11:26 PM

How much for a cat back system for my v-10 excursion?

2FORCEFULL

10-19-2006, 03:55 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (just another payment @ Oct. 18 2006, 11:26 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How much for a cat back system for my v-10 excursion?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
V 10s are tricky, you can actually lose power by mess'n with them to much, a 3 chamber for $130 does the most! it gives it some growl and makes it flow good in the lower rpm range where you drive the most.and also helps in the gear drop for passing. add a $50 crome tip and you are done. if you want less growl use the big suv flowmaster $180 it will perform the same ,just quieter. drop a K&N filter and you are done!

you have to remembr the V 10 is a smaller motor than even the 454 7.4 VS 6.8 and the V10 makes max tourque @ 4700 rpms. so opening up the exhaust too much will kill the bottom end causing you to have to run in a lower gear http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/headshake.gif
this is a case where less is more,

I keep everything in stock and it takes less than an hour to do! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

just another payment

10-19-2006, 07:12 AM

Thanks for the info, I may stop by and see you next time I am in Vegas.

duckbutter

10-19-2006, 07:31 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (just another payment @ Oct. 19 2006, 12:26 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How much for a cat back system for my v-10 excursion?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
My brother in law did exaust on his v-10 ford
and I had to laugh at him when ever I heard his truck
for some reason it sounded like a Civic with a coffee can
exaust he got teased everywhere except St.george(ut)
they all thought it was cool http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrinbounce2.gif

2FORCEFULL

10-19-2006, 07:49 AM

He probley lost low-end power and gas milage! depending on the year, they perform best w/ a single 3" tail with a 3chamber flowmaster, V10s like a chambered muffler, even banks made what they call a step muffler http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/chin_scratch.gif kina like a two stroke pipe http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

Havasu Dreamin

10-19-2006, 08:42 AM

What can I do with a Chevy 8.1 on a '05 2500 Suburban?

2FORCEFULL

10-19-2006, 09:58 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Havasu Dreamin @ Oct. 19 2006, 08:42 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What can I do with a Chevy 8.1 on a '05 2500 Suburban?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You have a few more options here, from the factory it has dual 3'' head pipes with dual cats, here is where it gets tricky the head pipes are too big, but they put them in to a very restrickive muffler that looks like it has two exits going in to one tail, but it is really a one exit muffler, we have the big 2 in 1 out flow [it's $180 in stalled] and we take the rear "Y" out and add a piece of pipe[$40.] works great, just add a drop in K&N and you are done

next, you can change out the whole tail pipe [ instead of the $40. piece of pipe] to a 4" mandral bent[$100.

I have found that the 8.1 likes the single out best for torque http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

the 3" 3chamber works also $130 plus remove the "Y" $40
its just a lot more raspy http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif

any way add a $50 crome tip and you will be spinn'n and grinn'n [ that's $hit'n and get'n for you utah folks} http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif

Havasu Dreamin

10-19-2006, 10:53 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2FORCEFULL @ Oct. 19 2006, 09:58 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You have a few more options here, from the factory it has dual 3'' head pipes with dual cats, here is where it gets tricky the head pipes are too big, but they put them in to a very restrickive muffler that looks like it has two exits going in to one tail, but it is really a one exit muffler, we have the big 2 in 1 out flow [it's $180 in stalled] and we take the rear Â*"Y" out and add a piece of pipe[$40.] works great, just add a drop in K&N and you are done

next, you can change out the whole tail pipe [ instead of the $40. piece of pipe] to a 4" mandral bent[$100.

I have found that the 8.1 likes the single out best for torque http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

the 3" 3chamber works also $130 plus remove the "Y" $40
its just a lot more raspy http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif

any way add a $50 Â*crome tip and you will be spinn'n and grinn'n [ that's $hit'n and get'n for you utah folks} http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
SWEET! Thanks for the info. more torque is always good. May need to make a run to Vegas for some muffler work.....

BADFISH II

10-19-2006, 11:37 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Havasu Dreamin @ Oct. 19 2006, 10:53 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2FORCEFULL @ Oct. 19 2006, 09:58 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You have a few more options here, from the factory it has dual 3'' head pipes with dual cats, here is where it gets tricky the head pipes are too big, but they put them in to a very restrickive muffler that looks like it has two exits going in to one tail, but it is really a one exit muffler, we have the big 2 in 1 out flow [it's $180 in stalled] and we take the rear Â*"Y" out and add a piece of pipe[$40.] works great, just add a drop in K&N and you are done

next, you can change out the whole tail pipe [ instead of the $40. piece of pipe] to a 4" mandral bent[$100.

I have found that the 8.1 likes the single out best for torque http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

the 3" 3chamber works also $130 plus remove the "Y" $40
its just a lot more raspy http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif

any way add a $50 Â*crome tip and you will be spinn'n and grinn'n [ that's $hit'n and get'n for you utah folks} http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
SWEET! Thanks for the info. more torque is always good. May need to make a run to Vegas for some muffler work.....[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You can always crash here bud!

BADFISH II

10-19-2006, 11:37 AM

In fact bring the boat while you're at it http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif

Tee

10-19-2006, 11:40 AM

How about a muffler delete pipe for a 06 Dodge Mega Cab Cummins?

2FORCEFULL

10-19-2006, 12:12 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tee @ Oct. 19 2006, 11:40 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How about a muffler delete pipe for a 06 Dodge Mega Cab Cummins?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Oh yeah! it's $80. buuuuuut! for your information, going that route you loose about 3mpg http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/Wow1.gif and about 50 ft.lbs of torque http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/Wow1.gif Â*takes about 15-20 min. to ruin the performance of your truck

I personaly did it to my dodge, went back to the magna flow 4" and hauls

Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif Â*$200 installed for the magna-flow http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/chin_scratch.gif $160. for the flow pro

question for you tee, how do you put a 2 ton camper in a 1ton truck http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/chin_scratch.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif is the pay load way more on the dodge? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif

2FORCEFULL

10-19-2006, 12:47 PM

tee had a very good question, we have been installing muffler delete pipes with success on all the diesels,but for some reason it not work'n on the new dodge's ford and chevy yes dodge, no http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

duckbutter

10-19-2006, 01:39 PM

I'm looking to get about 100-200 hp more outta my
04 dodge you got a muffler for that
then I can keep up parker and griffiths cause the keep
supercharging their LT1's

Red Horse

10-19-2006, 03:19 PM

I had you put a 2 chamber flowmaster on my Dodge 1/2 ton 4x4 when I lived in Vegas. My Dynomax rusted out. Never a problem. I didnt make the connection till now! Everyone loved the sound of my truck, except my neighbors when I went to the gym at 0600 in the morning! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

2FORCEFULL

10-19-2006, 04:01 PM

thanks for the post http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif

Tee

10-24-2006, 03:04 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2FORCEFULL @ Oct. 19 2006, 1:12 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">question for you tee, how do you put a 2 ton camper in a 1ton truck http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/chin_scratch.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif is the pay load way more on the dodge? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You just back under it, and set it down http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eek3.gif

Interesting on the loss of MPG and power http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/chin_scratch.gif

Everything I have heard on the Cummins forums state the oposite http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/duel.gif MPG goes up just a little (once you get used to hearing that cummins growl http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/boobies.gif and the power stays about the same.

Hmmmmm, might have to rethink this one!

2FORCEFULL

10-24-2006, 03:15 PM

some thing about the 06, it likes the muffler http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif
sometimes if the air goes by the 0-2 sensor it makes the ecm think it's lean, and dumps more fuel [which causes the plume of smoke] which kills the gas milage, which kills the low end performance http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/duel.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/chin_scratch.gif

BADFISH II

10-24-2006, 05:05 PM

don't suppose you can do a trailer hitch with the muffler http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

2FORCEFULL

10-24-2006, 05:33 PM

we quit doing hitches http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif

BADFISH II

10-24-2006, 06:07 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2FORCEFULL @ Oct. 24 2006, 5:33 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">we quit doing hitches http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Anyone you trust in town? It appears this hitch issue might be bigger than I thought because it's a new body style http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ohboy.gif

2FORCEFULL

10-24-2006, 06:54 PM

go see the guy behind dirt addictions on boulder high way, he can beef up your 5k hitch, those sticker are way underated and it doesn't take much to up the pull weight to 10k http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif they can't put a sticker on a truck that says that the hitch will pull over 10k even if it will cause you can't pull a trailer thats over 10k with the vec. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif

Rude

10-24-2006, 08:55 PM

if i bring you an exhaust system, are you willing to install it? it's the '98 ram 1/2 ton that i've been talking about in the other thread. it will either be a magnaflow or gibson.

2FORCEFULL

11-01-2006, 06:43 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rude235 @ Oct. 24 2006,20:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if i bring you an exhaust system, are you willing to install it? Â*it's the '98 ram 1/2 ton that i've been talking about in the other thread. Â*it will either be a magnaflow or gibson.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
No problem, bring it over

Rude

11-01-2006, 01:14 PM

i'll be giving you a call just as soon as i can decide which one i'm gonna buy. thanx steve.

Rude

11-03-2006, 06:45 AM

it's going to be a gibson. i'll probably order in the next couple of days. as soon as it shows up i'll get in touch with you steve.

2FORCEFULL

11-03-2006, 12:02 PM

keep in mind that we do a coplete pro -flo 4" for $450.00parts and labor

jrgaudettes

11-08-2006, 08:10 AM

I put a Mangaflow on my F250 6.0 cat back and like it alot. Sounds real good.

ISBB

11-26-2006, 03:02 PM

have your prices changed since the first post... and what do you recommend for the nissan V8?

ISBB

11-26-2006, 03:02 PM

do you pickup and drop off... im literally right around the corner from the shop :D

2FORCEFULL

11-26-2006, 10:06 PM

Prices Havn't Changed In Ten Years, Where Are You Might Be Able To Do That

ISBB

11-27-2006, 09:01 AM

Bruce and Charleston.

Was thinking a 3 chamber in place of the stocker and a decent looking tip :D

ISBB

11-29-2006, 02:05 PM

???

2FORCEFULL

11-29-2006, 07:43 PM

Are You At The School, 130 For The 3 Chamber

ISBB

11-29-2006, 07:46 PM

thx.. no im not at the school.. thats 130 installed right?

PUMP 'HER'

11-30-2006, 03:43 AM

have your prices changed since the first post... and what do you recommend for the nissan V8?

Complete replacement with a new FORD.:D

ISBB

11-30-2006, 01:27 PM

Watch it wise guy... Think about it like this... How many MOTORS have ford released that they havent had a problem with. Now this is Nissans first production V8 that i can remember they have always done 4's and 6's but the 5.6 is their first 8. How many problems have you heard w/ the motor and tranny combo.. NONE! :D The only issues i have heard of are brakes and rear ends which were both resolved within a year. Now ill take my 345ft lb's of torque and 4.10's and go smoke some cheap ass tires :D

Hey 2 forcefull is that a flowmaster or a housebrand 3 chamber?

DCfive

11-30-2006, 01:35 PM

I didn't know Nissan built trucks.:devil: :rollinglaugh: ;)

2FORCEFULL

11-30-2006, 02:02 PM

thx.. no im not at the school.. thats 130 installed right?

YEP.

ISBB

11-30-2006, 02:08 PM

I didn't know Nissan built trucks.:devil: :rollinglaugh: ;)

Who said anything about a truck.. this here is a S . U. VVVVVVVVVVVV! LOL.

http://www.dumontduneriders.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/normal_IMGP1231.JPG

DCfive

11-30-2006, 03:16 PM

LOL :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: My bad.

DCfive

11-30-2006, 03:18 PM

That is a nice looking ride ISBB. How does it tow?

ISBB

11-30-2006, 03:32 PM

WHen you load the trailer right it does just fine.. LOL It has the air ride, Taller Gears, and big trans cooler sticker on the door says it will tow up to 9k lbs. :D I dont plan on towing that much with it.. but i will probably be in the 7k neigborhood when i get the toyhauler.

DCfive

11-30-2006, 03:47 PM

I'm sure the power will be just fine. My concern would be the over-all handling, especially in windy or down-hill conditions. Just curious.

red_n_vegas

11-30-2006, 03:48 PM

better think twice about pulling 7k-9k with that. My little bro has the truck with the 5.6 and he loves it but its no full size truck..question for you?...why would you put 4:10's on a suv?

ISBB

11-30-2006, 04:06 PM

Thats what is in it from the factory.. The Big Tow option is geared with the equivilant of 4.10's

ISBB

11-30-2006, 04:33 PM

the titan has no problems towing 9k have seen it done and done safely... 25' superlight warriors with no problem.. im only planning on a 23' warrior ill be fine if not ill use the wifes titan.. whoopidie doo :D

2FORCEFULL

11-30-2006, 04:46 PM

so where are you at on bruce? can do the suv anyday you are ready,
evil beaver, resident blond's husband or my son will probley do it:thumb:

ISBB

12-03-2006, 01:40 PM

2forcefull was that a housebrand or name brand muffler? think ya missed that question in one of the earlier off topic rants...

2FORCEFULL

12-04-2006, 05:38 AM

Hey 2 forcefull is that a flowmaster or a housebrand 3 chamber?[/QUOTE]

I only use FLOWMASTER'S
The knock off's have too many problems and you don't save that much!

2FORCEFULL

12-04-2006, 05:40 AM

Ya I did miss that:drinkers:

BADFISH II

12-05-2006, 03:06 PM

Steve, I just talked to John at your shop, I need to get a flowmaster put on the wifes ride on the 27th - but he says there's nothing but X's on your calendar. I can't find your # again, did you post it on the site anywhere?

Can you give me a call or shoot me an email at admin@lasvegashotboats.com so I can set this up?

Thanks Steve,

Greg

2FORCEFULL

12-07-2006, 04:58 PM

dicudmore

12-07-2006, 07:50 PM

STEVE--on your issue of the Force trailer and hitting the U-bolt before the boat is all the way on the trailer--
Have you tried leaving the trailer a little shallower? The Ultra will hit and stop if the trailer is too deep--pulling out a few feet it will drive right up over it...

ISBB

01-04-2007, 02:51 PM

hey 2 forcefull was that you at the charleston carwash yesterday gettin that big black dodge washed... I pulled in as you were giving the wash attendant a Speaking TOO! I walked over to say hi but you had just pulled out after i dropped the car off out back... I work 2 doors down from there if thats a better clue on office location for ya!

Let me get the debit card situation squared away and i will probably be calling you up next week :D

2FORCEFULL

01-04-2007, 03:45 PM

Yep, that was me!!!! them foc'n crack heads ruined my truck!!!, they sprayed concrete degreaser on my truck and ruined the paint, then they where wipe'n it down with rags that where on the ground and scratched the shit out of it, the crack head then picked up a wax pad that was on the ground and starts try'n to wax the scratches out foc'n it up worse, I was about to knock his teeth out,foc'r only had one and i figure it would be doing him a favor!!! cops came and everything, they wanted me to leave it so they could take a power buffer to it, that used to be the best place in town to get a hand job!!! err ah , I mean a hand wash. I wouldn't let them idots wash a shovel!!!!

YEP!!! I'M PISSSSSSSSSED!!!!!!!:devil:

ISBB

01-04-2007, 05:57 PM

it didnt look too pretty when i passed by you... there is only one guy there i will let wax my car.. :D He is one of the managers i would assume since he seems to boss everyone around. He always does a good job and i have had no complaints towards them. I am really picky now with my black armada cuz it shows everything. At least my sonoma i could give a rats ass less about cuz that tan hid everything. LOL Ill give you a ring next week. Is there a good/bad time to call?

2FORCEFULL

01-06-2007, 05:01 PM

got the truck fix'ed

ISBB

01-08-2007, 04:32 PM

COME ONNNN!!! ill take the old one at least..... I could live wiht a little marred paint! Congrats on the new truck!

2FORCEFULL

01-11-2007, 07:25 AM