Winterising the boat ??

[KC & Karen]

Winter temps in Havasu have historically dropped below 36 degrees, water can freez as high as 44 degrees depending upon conditions.

so ask yourself now - before it is too late.... Â* "what do I need to do to winterise my ride?" Â*Nothing worst than starting next season with a cracked block.

While you're at it, ask yourself "how will my batteries survive the cooler winter months?" Â* Â*Trickle chargers are cheap insurance toward preserving the longevity of the batteries.

KC

[kevnmcd]

I have never winterized my boat and never had any problems. I keep my boat out here and it does reach freezing temps for short periods of time (couple of hours max). Is this enough time to freeze/crack the block...I doubt it. Something for the wife to worry about though. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif For me....I look at it this way. If it cracks....I get more HP! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

To help with the battery situation....I try and run it on the hose at least once every 4-6 weeks.

[KC & Karen]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Sep. 10 2003, 8:33 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have never winterized my boat and never had any problems. Â*I keep my boat out here and it does reach freezing temps for short periods of time (couple of hours max). Â*Is this enough time to freeze/crack the block...I doubt it. Â*Something for the wife to worry about though. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Â* For me....I look at it this way. Â*If it cracks....I get more HP! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

To help with the battery situation....I try and run it on the hose at least once every 4-6 weeks.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Batteries, not enough - spend $100 and get a GOOD trickle charger from www.batterystuff.com.

It will save you the embarasment of turning on your stero and only being able to play for ten minutes!!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC &amp; Karen @ Sep. 10 2003, 8:56 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It will save you the embarasment of turning on your stero and only being able to play for ten minutes!!!![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
That was low! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/glare.gif

[TooMuchFun]

My .o2 again ... Winterize your engine and drive and include changing the impellor each season and the battery rec.s and etc. About 5 years ago in Vegas we had 4+ days of below 30 degrees each night and the boat shops had business fixing cracked blocks and repairing related freezing problems all through the following season. It's an expensive gamble if you lose ... more than 4-5 years of winterizing costs at least ...

TooMuchFun

[B-Rad502]

I had my boat at the shop in Phoenix last winter and asked them if I should drain things out. They said no, even if it dips below freezing for a few hours, it still has some serious layers to get through to your engine, fiberglass, hatch, etc. Of course, it is VERY easy to drain things out. A few plugs and then the lower water hose coming out of the impeller. Not much to just have that extra margin of safety.

My garage rarely dips below 50 degrees even when it's in the teens outside, so I just leave water in her http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Essex502]

I've never winterized the boat even when storing it in Santa Clarita where it frequently gets in the 30's at night. Never had a problem. Now that it's in LHC in an insulated garage, I don't know whether or not to do it. Havasu_Dreamin' talked to Savage Marine and they quoted, I think, $300 to do the winterization including a complete flush of the cooling system to assure removal of all lake water. (You guys with the 496's and their closed cooling systems may not need this.) I don't have feel whether or not this is a good price until I talk with Savage directly to see what is included in the service. I have always put the batteries on a charger every anyway just to be safe.

Either way - the impeller gets changed along with the oil at the beginning of the season.

Winterize or not? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[Tee]

Winterize? Whats that? I just pull the motor every year before the leaves start changing. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[titties and beer]

i do it every year 168$ at the shop,its better than 17000$ for a new motor,they pull my drive off and check every thing for water,i'll have it done when we get back from the dam run with you guys , no new oil or impeller till summer ,in summer i take it back and they start it ,put in new impeller ,change the drive oil ,motor oil ,and what ever it needs http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif ,HOW LONG BEFORE SUMMER http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[red_n_vegas]

Why would you winterize?...we can boat yr round here in NV and in CA!!! I was with Crazy Racing and Keith STV last winter and it was nice...The lake empty the launch ramp is a ghost town. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[MOWtown]

I'm with you RnV. I love winter boating.

[Ultranaught]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Sep. 10 2003, 8:33 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have never winterized my boat and never had any problems. Â*I keep my boat out here and it does reach freezing temps for short periods of time (couple of hours max). Â*Is this enough time to freeze/crack the block...I doubt it. Â*Something for the wife to worry about though. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Â* For me....I look at it this way. Â*If it cracks....I get more HP! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

To help with the battery situation....I try and run it on the hose at least once every 4-6 weeks.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Now in Norcal, it is a good idea to do something about winterization. I had laid my boat up like it shows in the manual as if I lived in Chicago or something, but now I do it a lot different. In 1990 we had a prolonged cold snap in December and a large majority of boats here in the Sacramento area needed new engine blocks. Not mine because of my "Chicago" Style winterizing.
Now, I still change the oils and stabilize the gas, and yes I have a Guest Marinepro Battery Tender. But as far as keeping the engine water jackets from freezing, I put two 75w light bulbs attached to a "highly modified" extention cord into which I cut in a line voltage thermostat. When it gets below 45 Degrees it turns on the lights. That keeps it warm enough it will not freeze, in fact it warms pretty quickly.
I also put a box fan in the boat to keep condensation off of the seats and metal parts. I set it up on a timer and for the first time ever there was no evidence of condensation all winter long.

[Rude]

my winterization consists of placing a spotlight in the engine bay when it is supposed to get below freezing and running the boat in the driveway every couple of weeks. according to what i've been told, a couple of hours of freezing temps will not harm a block as long as the temps go back up to above freezing as is usually the case in vegas.

[Ultranaught]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rude235 @ Oct. 18 2003, 11:14 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">my winterization consists of Â*placing a spotlight in the engine bay when it is supposed to get below freezing and running the boat in the driveway every couple of weeks. Â*according to what i've been told, a couple of hours of freezing temps will not harm a block as long as the temps go back up to above freezing as is usually the case in vegas.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I believe you are absolutely right. The only time we had any wholesale engine block carnage in this area was that one cold snap 14 years ago when it did not get above freezing except for brief periods for almost two weeks. The light keeps the temp up and works great for me. I also have a Oregon Scientific weather station here and put a wireless remote temp. sensor in the engine compartment so I can set an alarm on the computer if it gets too cold. I know nerdy...

[KC & Karen]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ultranaught @ Oct. 18 2003, 4:57 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Sep. 10 2003, 8:33 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have never winterized my boat and never had any problems. Â*I keep my boat out here and it does reach freezing temps for short periods of time (couple of hours max). Â*Is this enough time to freeze/crack the block...I doubt it. Â*Something for the wife to worry about though. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Â* For me....I look at it this way. Â*If it cracks....I get more HP! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

To help with the battery situation....I try and run it on the hose at least once every 4-6 weeks.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Now in Norcal, it is a good idea to do something about winterization. I had laid my boat up like it shows in the manual as if I lived in Chicago or something, but now I do it a lot different. Â*In 1990 we had a prolonged cold snap in December and a large majority of boats here in the Sacramento area needed new engine blocks. Â*Not mine because of my "Chicago" Style winterizing.
Now, I still change the oils and stabilize the gas, and yes I have a Guest Marinepro Battery Tender. But as far as keeping the engine water jackets from freezing, Â*I put two 75w light bulbs attached to a "highly modified" extention cord into which I cut in a line voltage thermostat. Â*When it gets below 45 Degrees it turns on the lights. That keeps it warm enough it will not freeze, in fact it warms pretty quickly.
I also put a box fan in the boat to keep condensation off of the seats and metal parts. Â*I set it up on Â*a timer and for the first time ever there was no evidence of condensation all winter long.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I really like that idea, line voltage thermostat and a light bulb. Home Depot here I come.... It is simple, straight forward, and really good insurance against a cracked block.

[TooMuchFun]

Great ideas all ...

A note on trickle chargers for those of you who use the standard car battery types. Most automotive chargers tend to boil off the electrolytes in lead acid batteries, and tend to increase the probability of harmful sulfating, when left for long periods without checking.

Spend the extra cash for a marine battery charger (e.g., Guest 2620). Comes with a 3 stage electronic charger with two independent outputs if running dual batteries. Provides lighting indicators re: automatically switching from recharge at a rate of 10 amps and 11.8-14 volts, to absorption at a rate of 4-8 amps, to maintenance at a rate of 0.1 amps. Can also be permanently installed into the boat with a male 3 prong outlet for ease of hookup to standard outdoor electrical outlets.

I used to go through a battery or three a season due to off-season nonuse and kids leaving all sorts of electrical on and killing the batteries between trips on the water. Between a battery shutoff switch and the Guest charger, I've kept the same battery system running like new for 3 straight seasons. Has essentially more than paid for itself.

TooMuchFun

[Essex502]

KC turned me on to these guys:Battery Stuff (http://batterystuff.com)

[KC & Karen]

We have a TrueCharge 20 amp charger, it rocks! One of the deal closing features is the temperature sensor that adjusts the voltage for Havasu conditions.

[Ultranaught]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (TooMuchFun @ Oct. 22 2003, 09:59 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Great ideas all ...

A note on trickle chargers for those of you who use the standard car battery types. Most automotive chargers tend to boil off the electrolytes in lead acid batteries, and tend to increase the probability of harmful sulfating, when left for long periods without checking.

Spend the extra cash for a marine battery charger (e.g., Guest 2620). Comes with a 3 stage electronic charger with two independent outputs if running dual batteries. Provides lighting indicators re: automatically switching from recharge at a rate of 10 amps and 11.8-14 volts, to absorption at a rate of 4-8 amps, to maintenance at a rate of 0.1 amps. Can also be permanently installed into the boat with a male 3 prong outlet for ease of hookup to standard outdoor electrical outlets.

I used to go through a battery or three a season due to off-season nonuse and kids leaving all sorts of electrical on and killing the batteries between trips on the water. Between a battery shutoff switch and the Guest charger, I've kept the same battery system running like new for 3 straight seasons. Has essentially more than paid for itself.

TooMuchFun[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
TMF, I used the same charger on my eliminator eagle with 4 batteries on it for 3 years and it rocked. Get in fire it up and it starts every time. Also prevents battery damage from deep cycles and extended periods of time with batteries dead.
I just bought the same one for my Ultra...

[KC_Nelson]

Brining to the top

[titties and beer]

i'v been trying to get in to have it done,their packed,so it goes in tues to get done ,impeller oil full service in the spring,i tride to store it at the zoo at a frinds house but their was no room at the inn http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[DCfive]

Another option to the light bulb... They sell at West Marine, Heat Rods of different sizes. Even if freezing isn't a problem. They work great in coastal enviroments where condensation and mold are a problem. I use a heat rod in the engine compartment and a 75 watt light bulb in the cabin. Just my .02

[titties and beer]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DCfive @ Oct. 28 2004, 3:55 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Another option to the light bulb... They sell at West Marine, Heat Rods of different sizes. Even if freezing isn't a problem. They work great in coastal enviroments where condensation and mold are a problem. I use a heat rod in the engine compartment and a 75 watt light bulb in the cabin. Just my .02[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
dave i need more info on the heat rods ,i wish i had some where to put my boat so i could use it in the winter,but it GETS COLD up here my pool frezee's so we turn the pump to come on about 3-4 in the morn,the light deal works only if you can check it every day

Drain the water from the mainfolds and block put the batteries in the garage. Â*No water in the block, no ice, even if there is some water in the block, it won't crack a block the water will expand to the open voids. Â*Unless the block is weak you will never have a block crack. I lived in Maryland for 4 years, it got down to below zero several days. Â*All I did was drain the motor and drive and shrink wrap to keep the snow out with no problems.

[titties and beer]

I HAVE headers ?are the plugs on the sides of the motor?,i'm shit'n,just spent a lot of $$$ is it summer yet?

Mark-

There are pepcocks on each side of the block, open and drain I leave them open all winter, on the headers if there isn't a plug then I'd just pull the hoses and let them drain. There is also a pepcock on the oil cooler. I removed the hose on the thermostat housing and leave it off, pull the spark plugs and fog the cyclinders.

[titties and beer]

IT GOES IN TUES TO GET DONE BUT I'LL PULL THE PLUGS(water) TOMORROW,i think its 125$ and they do it all ,fill the motor with anti/fre

F*ckin anti freeze is $6.00 a gallon....

[titties and beer]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (VelocityDriver @ Oct. 28 2004, 10:25 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">F*ckin anti freeze is $6.00 a gallon....[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
holds 5-6 gals

[digginfordollars]

I start the engine and let it run till it is up to temp on the hose, then I have a five gallon bucket of antifreeze (biodegradable, of course) and I put my little, cheap submersible pump into the bucket and hook it up to the hose, with the extension cord in the cockpit, I plug in the pump and start the engine. Run the engine until the bucket is empty and shut down. Of course it is not that cold here so if you think you need more than one gallon of antifreeze to four gallons of water you might need a helper to replenish the bucket as it empties, but usually I can see a film of antifreeze on the exhaust tips when I'm done and I haven't froze a block yet.

Or you could pull the motor and store it in the garage.... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

[titties and beer]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (digginfordollars @ Oct. 28 2004, 11:17 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I start the engine and let it run till it is up to temp on the hose, then I have a five gallon bucket of antifreeze (biodegradable, of course) and I put my little, cheap submersible pump into the bucket and hook it up to the hose, with the extension cord in the cockpit, I plug in the pump and start the engine. Run the engine until the bucket is empty and shut down. Of course it is not that cold here so if you think you need more than one gallon of antifreeze to four gallons of water you might need a helper to replenish the bucket as it empties, but usually I can see a film of antifreeze on the exhaust tips when I'm done and I haven't froze a block yet.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
do you fog the moter/cyl

[Essex502]

I leave the boat in the Garage in Havasu and it stays nice and warm! Take it out once a month and run it around the lake. Keeps it nice and fresh. Do an annual service each spring to keep it nice and healthy.

Light bulbs, heat rods, fogging....naw...

Seriously, I do NOT run it during the winter though I certainly could in Havasu. I do fog the motor via warming it up on the hose and then once warmed-up, spraying the fog heavily into the throttle body. No antifreeze as the garage stays pretty warm in the winter because of all the insulation we put into the walls and ceiling. Come springtime in March we'll pull it out and take it for its annual service.

One thing I do though is keep a large cylinder of dessicant in the boat when it's not actually on the water to keep everything dry.

[OutCole'd]

Not sure what do to with mine. It's a sealed system and the motor is full of coolant, but it does use lake water to cool the antifreeze. Not sure how they clear out the heat exchanger.

[Havasu Dreamin]

We usually run the boat on the lake once per month. As long as it has been stored in Havasu, both this one and the previouos one, we have not had it winterized.

[DCfive]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (titties and beer @ Oct. 28 2004, 3:41 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Another option to the light bulb... They sell at West Marine, Heat Rods of different sizes. Even if freezing isn't a problem. They work great in coastal enviroments where condensation and mold are a problem. I use a heat rod in the engine compartment and a 75 watt light bulb in the cabin. Just my .02<span id='postcolor'>
dave i need more info on the heat rods ,i wish i had some where to put my boat so i could use it in the winter,but it GETS COLD up here my pool frezee's so we turn the pump to come on about 3-4 in the morn,the light deal works only if you can check it every day[/quote]





I don't think I'd rely on the heat rods in severe cold like you guys get Mark. Â*I could be wrong though... I think you're better off spending the money on a "real" winterization.


Go here:Goldenrod dehumidefiers (http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-)

[ex cracker]

Outcoled, my boat has a thing you pump up that drains the exhaust and heat exchanger but I have noticed the times I have forgotten to do this and went back to do it the water has drained out through the outdrive by itself so I assume yours would do the same plus it doesn't stay below freezing long enough to damage our boats that are stored inside.

[DCfive]

Sh*t, link doesn't seem to work. Just go to Westmarine.com and search, Goldenrod dehumidifiers.

[Havasu Dreamin]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (moneypit @ Oct. 29 2004, 11:30 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Outcoled, my boat has a thing you pump up that drains the exhaust and heat exchanger but I have noticed the times I have forgotten to do this and went back to do it the water has drained out through the outdrive by itself so I assume yours would do the same plus it doesn't stay below freezing long enough to damage our boats that are stored inside.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I don't believe the 525 has that same feature as the 496 does.

[OutCole'd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (moneypit @ Oct. 29 2004, 11:30 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Outcoled, my boat has a thing you pump up that drains the exhaust and heat exchanger but I have noticed the times I have forgotten to do this and went back to do it the water has drained out through the outdrive by itself so I assume yours would do the same plus it doesn't stay below freezing long enough to damage our boats that are stored inside.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
My problem is mine is stored outside. Can you come over & add on my garage? Maybe add a underground garage? I bet you could do this for cheap, right??

How are you guys going to approach the whole winter thing here in Vegas. I just picked up my new ride and it has the 496HO with the pump. I am also storing outside right now while I wait for indoor. Does pumping get enough of the water out to be safe from a freeze. The manual seems so broad in its answer. I am currious how those who store in Vegas or Boulder City are going to store for winter.

[digginfordollars]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (titties and beer @ Oct. 29 2004, 06:46 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">[do you fog the moter/cyl[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
No that's too much work for a four or five month layup in a very dry enviroment. I don't think condensation is a problem inside the motors around here.

[shane forrest]

what we do at the shop is stablize the fuel run the engine for 15 minutes on the hose with the stablizer in the tank so it goes threw the whole fuel system then just before we shut the engine down we fog it. on efi engines we mix up a winter mix in a 5 gallon tank that consist of fuel,stablizer and fogging oil.if you spray fogging oil just down the intake on an efi engine it cant go threw the fuel injectors and lubricate them.last but not least we drain the block,manifolds,oil coolers,water circulation pump,and seawater pump.its not a good idea to leave the plugs out of the block or manifolds because that is raw cast iron and it will want rust in the thread area where the plugs screw in.we always reinstall the plugs back in the block and manifolds.fuel these days starts to loose its octane in 30 days so for those of you that dont drain your engines at least stablize the fuel so you dont have a detonation problem on that first tank of fuel next season. we offer a basic winterization special at the shop for $159.95 and all lvhb members i will include a 10% discount. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif

[titties and beer]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (shane forrest @ Oct. 31 2004, 07:46 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what we do at the shop is stablize the fuel run the engine for 15 minutes on the hose with the stablizer in the tank so it goes threw the whole fuel system then just before we shut the engine down we fog it. on efi engines we mix up a winter mix in a 5 gallon tank that consist of fuel,stablizer and fogging oil.if you spray fogging oil just down the intake on an efi engine it cant go threw the fuel injectors and lubricate them.last but not least we drain the block,manifolds,oil coolers,water circulation pump,and seawater pump.its not a good idea to leave the plugs out of the block or manifolds because that is raw cast iron and it will want rust in the thread area where the plugs screw in.we always reinstall the plugs back in the block and manifolds.fuel these days starts to loose its octane in 30 days so for those of you that dont drain your engines at least stablize the fuel so you dont have a detonation problem on that first tank of fuel next season. we offer a basic winterization special at the shop for $159.95 and all lvhb members i will include a 10% discount. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
thanks for the info,up here they fill the motor with anti/free,if i was closer i would let you do it ,i'm shit n cus i can't get mine in till tuesday and its been getting in the 30's

[TooMuchFun]

Agreed with Shane ... I was coming in anyway to have you do all that in the next couple/few weeks ... 10% discount is an added bonus http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif.

TooMuchFun

[shane forrest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (titties and beer @ Oct. 31 2004, 07:20 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (shane forrest @ Oct. 31 2004, 07:46 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what we do at the shop is stablize the fuel run the engine for 15 minutes on the hose with the stablizer in the tank so it goes threw the whole fuel system then just before we shut the engine down we fog it. on efi engines we mix up a winter mix in a 5 gallon tank that consist of fuel,stablizer and fogging oil.if you spray fogging oil just down the intake on an efi engine it cant go threw the fuel injectors and lubricate them.last but not least we drain the block,manifolds,oil coolers,water circulation pump,and seawater pump.its not a good idea to leave the plugs out of the block or manifolds because that is raw cast iron and it will want rust in the thread area where the plugs screw in.we always reinstall the plugs back in the block and manifolds.fuel these days starts to loose its octane in 30 days so for those of you that dont drain your engines at least stablize the fuel so you dont have a detonation problem on that first tank of fuel next season. we offer a basic winterization special at the shop for $159.95 and all lvhb members i will include a 10% discount. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
thanks for the info,up here they fill the motor with anti/free,if i was closer i would let you do it ,i'm shit n cus i can't get mine in till tuesday and its been getting in the 30's[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
the only problem with antifreeze is you dont get the sand out of the water jacks like you do when you drain them. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

[titties and beer]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (shane forrest @ Oct. 31 2004, 6:10 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (titties and beer @ Oct. 31 2004, 07:20 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what we do at the shop is stablize the fuel run the engine for 15 minutes on the hose with the stablizer in the tank so it goes threw the whole fuel system then just before we shut the engine down we fog it. on efi engines we mix up a winter mix in a 5 gallon tank that consist of fuel,stablizer and fogging oil.if you spray fogging oil just down the intake on an efi engine it cant go threw the fuel injectors and lubricate them.last but not least we drain the block,manifolds,oil coolers,water circulation pump,and seawater pump.its not a good idea to leave the plugs out of the block or manifolds because that is raw cast iron and it will want rust in the thread area where the plugs screw in.we always reinstall the plugs back in the block and manifolds.fuel these days starts to loose its octane in 30 days so for those of you that dont drain your engines at least stablize the fuel so you dont have a detonation problem on that first tank of fuel next season. we offer a basic winterization special at the shop for $159.95 and all lvhb members i will include a 10% discount. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif<span id='postcolor'>
thanks for the info,up here they fill the motor with anti/free,if i was closer i would let you do it ,i'm shit n cus i can't get mine in till tuesday and its been getting in the 30's[/quote]
the only problem with antifreeze is you dont get the sand out of the water jacks like you do when you drain them. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
thanks , i'll ask about that

Shane,

What should one do if they plan to run about every 2 weeks through the winter? I have the 496HO and have just "pumped" the things, to remove the water. Seems as though all the water drains out then or over time.

I am not near electricity with my storage, but am trying to do so, so I can put an electric blanket on a timer in the hatch.

Any suggestions would be great.
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[shane forrest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CJC @ Oct. 31 2004, 6:51 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Shane,

What should one do if they plan to run about every 2 weeks through the winter? I have the 496HO and have just "pumped" the things, to remove the water. Seems as though all the water drains out then or over time.

I am not near electricity with my storage, but am trying to do so, so I can put an electric blanket on a timer in the hatch.

Any suggestions would be great.
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we use the pump on the 496 engine also thats fine dont forget about the fuel stablizer in the tank.

[Red Horse]

For the jet boat guys!!

Your pump will hold water in the lower part of the bowl. Have to stick some paper towels thru the intake to get it all out, or take the thing apart!! Remeber, it is not good at all the run your jet boat without water as the impeller and wear ring is lubricated with it. Also, your main thrust bearing needs water as well. The newer one are teflon and need water to work properly. We have all seen the guy at the launch ramp fire up his jet boat or jet ski to get the water out. Just tearing it up!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif

[dicudmore]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Horse @ Nov. 01 2004, 08:44 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For the jet boat guys!! Â*

Your pump will hold water in the lower part of the bowl. Have to stick some paper towels thru the intake to get it all out, or take the thing apart!! Remeber, it is not good at all the run your jet boat without water as the impeller and wear ring is lubricated with it. Also, your main thrust bearing needs water as well. The newer one are teflon and need water to work properly. We have all seen the guy at the launch ramp fire up his jet boat or jet ski to get the water out. Just tearing it up!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
we see that with the outdrives too....and we say to ourselves, what a stupid http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asshole2.gif

[ex cracker]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (OutCole'd @ Oct. 29 2004, 12:49 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Can you come over & add on my garage? Maybe add a underground garage? I bet you could do this for cheap, right??[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I thought so but after bidding mine out I was in shock. Thank god I am in that business and can self perform alot of stuff using my contractors help or I would probally have to scrap the underground garage.

[shane forrest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Horse @ Nov. 01 2004, 08:44 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For the jet boat guys!! Â*

Your pump will hold water in the lower part of the bowl. Have to stick some paper towels thru the intake to get it all out, or take the thing apart!! Remeber, it is not good at all the run your jet boat without water as the impeller and wear ring is lubricated with it. Also, your main thrust bearing needs water as well. The newer one are teflon and need water to work properly. We have all seen the guy at the launch ramp fire up his jet boat or jet ski to get the water out. Just tearing it up!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
i drilled a hole in the bottom of my bowl and tapped it,installed a 1/8 pipe plug allen head and drain it that way its a lot easier. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/Bolt.gif

[titties and beer]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (shane forrest @ Oct. 31 2004, 07:46 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what we do at the shop is stablize the fuel run the engine for 15 minutes on the hose with the stablizer in the tank so it goes threw the whole fuel system then just before we shut the engine down we fog it. on efi engines we mix up a winter mix in a 5 gallon tank that consist of fuel,stablizer and fogging oil.if you spray fogging oil just down the intake on an efi engine it cant go threw the fuel injectors and lubricate them.last but not least we drain the block,manifolds,oil coolers,water circulation pump,and seawater pump.its not a good idea to leave the plugs out of the block or manifolds because that is raw cast iron and it will want rust in the thread area where the plugs screw in.we always reinstall the plugs back in the block and manifolds.fuel these days starts to loose its octane in 30 days so for those of you that dont drain your engines at least stablize the fuel so you dont have a detonation problem on that first tank of fuel next season. we offer a basic winterization special at the shop for $159.95 and all lvhb members i will include a 10% discount. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
had mine put to sleep today(at RPM) http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/traurig001.gif they did all this and filled it up with anti /frz,115$,i asked about the sand in the block? they flush it out before they fill with a/f,IS IT SUMMER YET? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/traurig001.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/traurig001.gif

[Red Horse]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (shane forrest @ Nov. 01 2004, 12:44 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Horse @ Nov. 01 2004, 08:44 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For the jet boat guys!! Â*

Your pump will hold water in the lower part of the bowl. Have to stick some paper towels thru the intake to get it all out, or take the thing apart!! Remeber, it is not good at all the run your jet boat without water as the impeller and wear ring is lubricated with it. Also, your main thrust bearing needs water as well. The newer one are teflon and need water to work properly. We have all seen the guy at the launch ramp fire up his jet boat or jet ski to get the water out. Just tearing it up!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
i drilled a hole in the bottom of my bowl and tapped it,installed a 1/8 pipe plug allen head and drain it that way its a lot easier. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/Bolt.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I paid way to much money for my MPD blueprinted pump for that. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/director.gif I would have Jack do that for me!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/Thanx.gif

[Red Horse]

BTW, jet boat stays in the garage. Nice and warm all the time!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif Yes, I love my boat http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/jump.gif


http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bowdown.gif BOAT

[titties and beer]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Horse @ Nov. 02 2004, 6:41 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BTW, jet boat stays in the garage. Nice and warm all the time!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif Â*Yes, I love my boat http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/jump.gif


http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bowdown.gif BOAT[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
for 115$ i can take mine out "ANY WEATHER!" http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif ,DAMN NEER ANY WATER http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Red Horse]

Better be pretty calm for me!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/director.gif

[dicudmore]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Horse @ Nov. 02 2004, 6:15 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Better be pretty calm for me!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/director.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
you can ride with me when it gets rough http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[burtandnancy]

I bought a pair of dip stick heaters (at the NAPA store). Also, my wifes old electric blanket mysteriously disappeared! Also used to use an IR heat lamp on a 12on12off timer. In So NV you only need these items if we get below freezing for a couple of days as it did about 5/6 years ago. Lots of broken blocks and exhaust manifolds then. However, your boat will not freeze if its in a slip IN the water...

[titties and beer]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (burtandnancy @ Nov. 20 2004, 09:54 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Â*However, your boat will not freeze if its in a slip IN the water...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
i always wondered why they won't frezee in the water?