full fuel tank???

[Rude]

just out of curiosity, how can you tell when you have a full fuel tank? Â*do you just have to look at the gauge and estimate the number gallons left until it's full? if your tank can hold 35 gallons, can actually put 35 gallons in it or do you have to leave room for the fuel to slosh around and expand?

[B-Rad502]

I usually just go by sight and sound. When it starts to make that certain sound, I back off a little until it backs up the neck. (Kevin, go ahead and make a comment about that last sentence! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif) I always look at the gauge and get a general idea of how much we need too, then it's easier to prepare. Do you have a little vent hole by the fill?? It should spit out of there before it overflows too. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Rude]

no i sure don't. it just comes shooting out of the fuel fill http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/insane.gif

[PUMP 'HER']

Thats when you know its full.

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (B-Rad502 @ June 26 2003, 8:00 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">...Kevin, go ahead and make a comment about that last sentence!.....[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Brad - I think I will just let that one be! Â* http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Rude - On my old boat it was real easy cuz the fill hole was on the gunwale and was a straight shot down into the tank so you could see when the tank was full. Â*On the new one it's not that easy. Â*The fill tube is on the transom with a belly tank. Â*The problem with that is that the fill tube is flat and backs up real easy when you have the pump nozzle wide open. Â*The first time I filled it up (nozzle wide open) it over flowed and I thought it was full. Â*Well, when I got in the boat I only had 1/2 tank. Â*What I found out is that I have to keep filling slowly until I see the fill tube in the boat filling up and watch the gas gauge. Â*Don't know if that helps, but at least I got to explain my frustrations. Â* http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I know with No strEssex, that if he fills his tanks all the way full when he gets on the water he will have fuel blowing out of his vents, so he only fills his tanks to about 3/4 full.

[jrgaudettes]

Same with mine, If we fill the tanks to the top I have fuel all over the side of my boat....It sucks...

[MOWtown]

Me too. If I'm driving down the grade from BC to Hemmenway or down to Cottonwood, I have fuel pissing all over my boat. I've thought of clamping off or installing shutoff valves on the tubes to my breather vents but am concerned that this might be dangerous. Any thoughts? I hate having to fill the tanks to 1/2 full then fill the other 1/2 on the water...way too much $$$.

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MOWtown @ June 27 2003, 12:13 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I've thought of clamping off or installing shutoff valves on the tubes to my breather vents but am concerned that this might be dangerous. Â*Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Unless you put a breathable gas cap on there, I would stay away from putting a valve or clamp on that vent. You would be surprised how much those tanks expand and contract. They need to breath or they may explode! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif Hey, there's a thought....maybe you could get that post '95 boat then. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Rude]

kev, my nordic is the same way your other eliminator was. i could see down the fuel fill and know when to stop. with the daytona it too has the fills on the transom (one on each side). and i have to fill them very slowly or it comes splashing out http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/insane.gif . so it sounds like i'll just have to keep an eye on the gauge.

[Red Horse]

Mow, my boat has dual tanks and NO vents. I have never had a problem.



The vent needs to be at the front of the tank with a loop and a anti siphon vent on it. That way you should get just the vapor and no liquid. Think of a plumb wall with a hammer pipe and vent system. Maybe you could elbow yours off to a different location.?http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[MOWtown]

Red, you're right in that I could make the vent tube do loops if I wanted to and then daylight it at the vent. Good idea. BTW, don't you at least have breatable caps? My Rayson Craft daycruiser had them but they leaked too.

[Essex502]

Filling our tanks is tricky with the fill tubes on the transom. It does make a "gurgling" sound before it spits out the fill tube. I also put a chunk of paper towels around the nozzle and when it makes the sound I back off the flow rate and usually have no problems filling the tank to the bottom of the neck. It is a good idea to check your gauge(s) before filling to have an idea of how much it will need. Never had too much of a problem with filling. However, on the Essex the vent tends to leak gas on the sides of the boat when towing at highway speeds with a full or nearly full tanks. Makes a mess all over the sides of the boat. definitely NOT anti-siphon! Also, a distint venting does occur sitting still with full tanks to the point of smelling the gas fumes as the boat vents. The odor goes away the more empty the tank becomes. We filled up this weekend with nary a drop lost out of the filler tubes.

[titties and beer]

i got the same problem fill up and by the time i get there fuel all over the place http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/insane.gif

[Rude]

other than removing any wax that's on the boat, is the gas spills causing any damage to the gel?http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[kevnmcd]

Rude - If you leave it on there, eventually it will discolor it some but that is about it. If it does dry on there take a rag and some paint thinner, clean it off and then wax it. Don't ask me how I know this, though. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[beer hunter]

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[Essex502]

I've been thinking about getting some type of plastic cap to go over the vent but think that would defeat the purpose of letting the tanks "breath".

In automotive applications, the fuel tank is connected to a vapor recovery cannister that doesn't vent to the atmosphere and the gas cap has venting in it to prevent pressure or vacuum from damaging the tank. Actually, vacuum is more dangerous than pressure - believe it or not - as the sucking of fuel by the fuel pump can easily collapse a tank. Modern gas caps on automotive applications have a spring rated at only a few inches of water pressure on the vacuum side and much, much more on the pressure side. What we all seem to need is something more like a car or truck type of venting.

[Rude]

ok kev, so you know when you tell a kid "don't go in that room", where's the first place they go? so how do you know that? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ohboy.gif

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rude235 @ July 01 2003, 7:45 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ok kev, so you know when you tell a kid "don't go in that room", where's the first place they go? Â*so how do you know that? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ohboy.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
On my old boat...if I ever had full tanks and it was on the trailer as soon as it would heat up and the gas would expand I would have fuel pouring out of my fill caps. It would run down the gunwales and trickle through the rub rail and leave tracks all down the side of my boat. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif When it would dry it would leave a sticky film behind. The only way I could get it off was to wet a rag with thinner and scrub away. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif

Glad I have a new boat! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif