Good news, bad news

[No strESSEX]

So the good news. I sold my Omega. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The bad, my Essex has a crack in the hull that's going to take 4 weeks to fix and some serious $$$. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/glare.gif

At least I have a lot of good friends with boats that can haul my ass around the next month! Oh well. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

By the way JR, I think I saw your boat at Essex yesterday. Nice boat!

[RodnJen]

Bad news, sorry to hear it.

My wife is dead set on a new Essex 21' Sterling, although we likely won't buy for a few months. Is the crack a common problem with the brand? They told me they have a ten year hull-warranty, are they standing behind it?

[Havasu Dreamin]

A crack in the hull?? Where is it at??? Their hulls are literally bullett-proof. I guess in this case it's not. Sorry to hear about that.

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (No strESSEX @ May 08 2003, 07:09 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">At least I have a lot of good friends with boats that can haul my ass around the next month! Oh well. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You know....those rides are going to cost you lots of $$$$$$, too. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif and most likely lots of beer, as well! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[No strESSEX]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RodnJen @ May 08 2003, 07:27 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Bad news, sorry to hear it. Â*

My wife is dead set on a new Essex 21' Sterling, although we likely won't buy for a few months. Â*Is the crack a common problem with the brand? Â*They told me they have a ten year hull-warranty, are they standing behind it?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
They make a great boat, one of the best constructed hulls I've seen. As for the warranty, I'm not sure where we stand on that. Between Essex and my insurance adjuster, I'm sure they will try to determine who needs to take responsibility.

I have no idea what happened. I have only had the boat 9 months and have not had any accidents in it. The crack is pretty far back - on the inside of one of the strakes and the bunk on the trailer hides it pretty well. You have to lie on your back underneath the boat to see it. I suppose it could have been there for some time. It does seem odd that with Essexs' layup that there would be a crack of this magnatude.

I'll keep you all posted.

[No strESSEX]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ May 08 2003, 07:38 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (No strESSEX @ May 08 2003, 07:09 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">At least I have a lot of good friends with boats that can haul my ass around the next month! Oh well. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You know....those rides are going to cost you lots of $$$$$$, too. Â* http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif Â* and most likely lots of beer, as well! Â* http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
If it will help, I'll wear a thong when passing out free beer.

Just give it a thought. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[jrgaudettes]

No strEssex,
Sry to here the news, Im sure the warranty will cover it......or it better....There is a boat like mine that I see in the shop quite a bit.... Mine goes in on Sat....Alex says about a week in a half to fix......So lets hope....

[Essex502]

A crack? Wow! I didn't think it was possible with an Essex hull. Someone must have dropped it off the trailed! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Any other damage around the area to indicate hitting something submerged? I was just under mine last Friday cleaning the underside of the hull for the first time in 3 seasons...not a mark except towards the bow where a little pitting is due, I'm sure, to beaching the boat in coves. I don't know if it's worth addressing, yet.

[MOWtown]

Sorry about the crack. Skip the thong. Beers will be plenty http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Good luck.

[No strESSEX]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Essex502 @ May 08 2003, 08:49 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Any other damage around the area to indicate hitting something submerged?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
There are no stress cracks in the immediate area of the crack. Steve said there were a couple dings in the gel closer to the center of the keel.

Like I mentioned earlier, I haven't run the boat up on anything so I have no idea when or where this happened. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Steve and Alex are good guys so I'm hoping they will take care of me. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Chinewalker]

The issue of the crack in this hull is being addressed and they are working to find the sourse of the problem. Extreme trailers has also been contacted and the true root of the problem is going to be found. Essex has always stood behind their product and always will, but being in bussiness for myself, I understand their hesitation in just fixing the fracture before the cause is found. I hate to hear that you have experianced a problem of this magnitude with your boat, but Alex assured me that this is not a problem common to Essex boats. 99% of the time, it is found to be related to something else.

BTW: PLEASE DON'T TAKE THE ADVISE ABOUT THE THONG!

[kevnmcd]

Chinewalker-How do you fit into all this? You seem to be on the inside....do you work for Essex?

[Chinewalker]

Lets just say I am well informed. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[jrgaudettes]

Any new on your boat? I looked for it on Thur but didnt see it.. There are real busy over there right now....They are awsome people over there Alex is the man he got the boat ready in time and stayed untill 9:30pm on Thur night to finish it...The swim step brackets came out bitchen... I had asked Alex about your boat and he explained the the situation like chinewalker did, Essex is doing an investigation and the will find out what happened to the boat to determine who is at fault..

[Havasu Dreamin]

I wonder if this has anything to do with Essex recently deciding to go with Zieman for trailers and no longer use Extreme?

Everyone at Essex has always been awesome to work with, from the owners on down the line! And yes, they stand behind their product 100%

JR, good to hear about the swim step brackets. What did Alex end up doing?

[jrgaudettes]

He just made knotches in them so the drive shower would clear....I looks sweet... I really happy woth what he did... I drove the boat alot this weekend and no problems what so ever.....I noticed the trailers also and asked Alex, He said that Laser boats have used Zieman trailers for there boats and Essex seems to like them so now you have a choice on which trailer you can get... I still like the extream trailer better..

[No strESSEX]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (jrgaudettes @ May 27 2003, 2:43 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Any new on your boat? I looked for it on Thur but didnt see it.. There are real busy over there right now....They are awsome people over there Alex is the man he got the boat ready in time and stayed untill 9:30pm on Thur night to finish it...The swim step brackets came out bitchen... I had asked Alex about your boat and he explained the the situation like chinewalker did, Essex is doing an investigation and the will find out what happened to the boat to determine who is at fault..[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Hey Jr.,
I have quite a bit of new info concerning my boat but to be honest with you, I have been uncomfortable sharing that info with anyone until Essex and my insurance company were up to speed. My dealings with Alex have always been positive. However, I went to Essex last week to speak with them directly and share the surveyors report with them. I tried to speak with Steve, and he didn't have the time of day for me. He then directed me to speak with Howard who had started to work for them just five days earlier. And while he was respectful to me, he was in no position to answer much of any of my questions. Apparently Alex was not there at the time and needless to say, I was extremely frustrated. Here I was there trying to keep the ball rolling and keep a line of communication going, and got absolutley nowhere.

The surveyors report has identified the problem as "hull flex", probably from trailering, and he feels that it is clearly a warranty issue. To this date, I have been told by Alex that Essex does not agree with these findings.

The resaon that my boat was not at Essex this past weekend was that I decided to have another third party look at the boat and give me his assesment. Havasu Barney has done just that, and I will eventually share his findings with all of you once Essex/insurance co. have shared this info and communicated. I want to give Essex the time to do the "right thing".

The most frustrating part of this whole ordeal is that I, like many other Essex owners feel that they make one of the best boats in the industry. I'm just wondering at this point what their warranty covers.

That is about all I feel confortable saying at this point. I appreciate all of your concern for my situation, and will keep you informed down the line. Let's all hope for a positive outcome!

Kurt

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (No strESSEX @ May 27 2003, 5:12 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">.....like many other Essex owners feel that they make one of the best boats in the industry.....[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Should have bought an Eliminator! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Sorry...couldn't pass on that one. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[jrgaudettes]

Kurt, I stand with you 100% your warranty is the same as mine. I hope this gets worked out. I know how frustrating it can be not to get the answers you need. It is odd Steve wouldnt talk to you personnaly I have never meet him just have seen him around. I bought my boat without ever talking to any one but Amy and Alex. Thx for the info if there is anything I can do plase dont hesitate to ask... Leo

[jrgaudettes]

Kevin that hurts...... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif Hitting below the belt.... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (jrgaudettes @ May 27 2003, 7:10 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Kevin that hurts...... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif Â*Hitting below the belt.... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Leo - You are right....I should be careful who I say those things to....he might come throw a rock through my front window. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif I think Kurt knows I am just messin' with him. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[No strESSEX]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (jrgaudettes @ May 27 2003, 7:09 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thx for the info if there is anything I can do plase dont hesitate to ask... Leo[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Thanks Leo. I appreciate it! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[jrgaudettes]

Kevin, Yeah we dont want any rocks... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif Sweet boat again.... Hope you and the family enjoy....

[Essex502]

What ever became of the warranty issue? Did Essex live up to covering it? Or was the insurance going to handle the repairs? Or can you publicly say? (Bound by a confidentiality agreement http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif )

[No strESSEX]

As of last week, my insurance company said that Essex had not returned thier calls to discuss my situation further. So unfortunately, Essex has done nothing to remedy my problem. I have digital photos and a description of the problem from Havasu Barney that shows some bad glass around the strake.

I'm surprised that they are willing to have negative comments being circulated on the boards concerning their product, but at this point, they have not backed there warranty. The funny thing is, I still think they make a great boat. But why have a warranty if you're not going to stand behind it.

Anyway, thanks for your concern, 502. I will keep you all posted!

[Essex502]

Hey, we Essex owners all all in the same boat - excuse the pun - with the warranty. Luckily, we haven't had any major problems with ours. Alex used to monitor a couple of the Website Forums but I doubt he still does. Good luck with getting it resolved. We're all backing you!

[MOWtown]

How disappointing. I had recently put Essex at the top of my next boat upgrade list but I put a lot of stock in hearing first hand horror stories after my Ford truck problems. I won't be able to ignore your story when I go to purchase my next boat. Sorry for you misfortune. You'd think that even if there was a little doubt on their part as to the cause of the problem that they would fix it for the excellent p.r. that they would get from it. Boat sales are all about p.r.

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MOWtown @ July 08 2003, 12:36 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How disappointing. Â*I had recently put Essex at the top of my next boat upgrade list but I put a lot of stock in hearing first hand horror stories after my Ford truck problems. Â*I won't be able to ignore your story when I go to purchase my next boat. Â*Sorry for you misfortune. Â*You'd think that even if there was a little doubt on their part as to the cause of the problem that they would fix it for the excellent p.r. that they would get from it. Â*Boat sales are all about p.r.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Three words for you, Mike.....

http://www.eliminatorboat.com/_images/Splash1.jpg

http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

[jrgaudettes]

Kurt, you got to f**king kidding me.....UNBELIEVABLE!!!!..Alex is a good man and im sure its out of his control but F**K there warranty....You should get a lawer involved, I would. I bought a Essex based on the construction of the boat Altough they have been good to me I feel they should be good to all...Weather who's fault this is at least you should have some ansewr buy now....I feel as you do Kurt I still think the boat is a great boat and I woould recomend to anyone who asked but this as got to be resolved before I refer anyone else...

[jrgaudettes]

Damm, mabey I shoul have said all this after I got my prop's back from Essex... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (jrgaudettes @ July 08 2003, 1:45 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Damm, mabey I shoul have said all this after I got my prop's back from Essex... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Leo - Actually, shouldn't have taken them to Essex in the first place...all they do is send them out to a prop shop anyways. Now your paying for the middle man, too. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[jrgaudettes]

Your right, I dont know who to send them too..

[BADFISH II]

www.randrpropshop.com

[BADFISH II]

Have you sent them already Leo? If not, send me a pm before you send them off, I can save you some money potentially

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (jrgaudettes @ July 08 2003, 2:09 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your right, I dont know who to send them too..[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Next time (and there will be a next time http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ) there are quite a few in the area. As LM1 said above....Kevin at R&R is a good one, too.

[jrgaudettes]

I already sent them this morning.... But next time I will be smarter.

[Essex502]

Go get them back! It's not too late!

[jrgaudettes]

They are already gone.... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[Havasu Dreamin]

Damn, can't believe that Essex has not even bothered to return the insurance companies phone call. I've got some other questions about this situation but I want to see how it pans out before I ask them. Hopefully it all works out for you no strESSEX

[No strESSEX]

I've gotta say that no matter how this plays out, you all have been very cool! Thanks for the support. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Essex502]

We're here for you even if you decide to make a mistake and later on buy an eliminator. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Essex502 @ July 09 2003, 07:26 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">We're here for you even if you decide to make a mistake and later on buy an eliminator. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
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[Essex502]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ July 09 2003, 07:31 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Essex502 @ July 09 2003, 07:26 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">We're here for you even if you decide to make a mistake and later on buy an eliminator. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif Â* http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif Â* http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/glare.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
kevin - we feel you're pain!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif

[kevnmcd]

I can understand that jealously is a hard thing to overcome....if you need any help with that maybe you should start a group called "Boat owners that wished they would have bought an Eliminator". http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif You might be surprised how many of the members on this board might show up! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Essex502]

Jealosy?? Hardly! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Especially don't want to follow the leader like rats followed the Pied Piper! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

If I thought the eliminator 21' was the better boat when I bought mine I would have bought it. Money was not the object when I spent as much as I did for the Essex.

[No strESSEX]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Essex502 @ July 09 2003, 07:26 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">We're here for you even if you decide to make a mistake and later on buy an eliminator. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I would never make that BIG of a mistake! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (No strESSEX @ July 09 2003, 07:51 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I would never make that BIG of a mistake! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
One day you guys will realize the errors of your ways! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[BADFISH II]

I don't know, I don't think I would buy another Essex, for various reasons. I think they make an excellent boat - rock solid, and I truly loved my boat and miss it, I just have other issues with them. My short list for my next boat is

Howard
Lavey
Elim
Ultra

Elim puts out the most boats so chances of me finding an Elim are much greater than the others, meaning I'll probably end up with an Elim.

[Essex502]

I all truth my next boat won't be an Essex (if I were to decide today) simple 'cause they don't have a model in the size I am looking for that I like. The Bullet so far has the edge. Maybe with a 525 or Teague 600 since he's right next door. Both shops are within a coupla' miles of the house so I could almost watch it being built. Now...if only the Havasu house were completed so I could get on with boat shopping....... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[jrgaudettes]

Im looking @ the 26ft Lavey mid cabin...Coming to a lake near you this fall....

[BADFISH II]

that 26 Lavey is beautiful!

What's this? An exodus from Essex?

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ July 09 2003, 08:40 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Elim puts out the most boats so chances of me finding an Elim are much greater than the others, meaning I'll probably end up with an Elim.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Good choice!!!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Essex502 @ July 09 2003, 08:55 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I all truth my next boat won't be an Essex (if I were to decide today) simple 'cause they don't have a model in the size I am looking for that I like. The Bullet so far has the edge. Maybe with a 525 or Teague 600 since he's right next door. Both shops are within a coupla' Â*miles of the house so I could almost watch it being built. Now...if only the Havasu house were completed so I could get on with boat shopping....... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
E502 - My buddy (Dr. Margarita on Hot Boat forums) just bought the 25 Bullet from Howard. Very nice boat. I can't wait to drive that thing! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif He is putting a 496 HO in it and should see mid 70's. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif If you want a ride, he would be more than willing to give you one...it should be on the water in late August. Let me know and I can set you up with him.

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (jrgaudettes @ July 09 2003, 09:02 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Im looking @ the 26ft Lavey mid cabin...Coming to a lake near you this fall....[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
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[BADFISH II]

HOLY SH!T, I'm caught up on this now. I remember scanning through it a while back but things have been pretty busy with the twins.

I'm sorry to hear about the crack Kurt! That's unfortunate. It does surprise me the difficulties you're having getting it fixed as well. It's even more surprising that they obviously know you're well known on the boards and would risk the not so positive comments.

Well, that will balance things out a bit then. Through LVHB they've gotten TONS of free positive publicity - I think there were 3 Essex boats in the Hot Boat article as well, maybe 4 showing, not too mention the 6000+ viewers a month and there's no shortage of Essex stuff around this site in the gallery and forums, that's for sure.

Hopefully things will work out and maybe the ins. co. can just get it taken care of for you.

[Essex502]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ July 09 2003, 09:29 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">E502 - My buddy (Dr. Margarita on Hot Boat forums) just bought the 25 Bullet from Howard. Â*Very nice boat. Â*I can't wait to drive that thing! Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Â* He is putting a 496 HO in it and should see mid 70's. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Â*If you want a ride, he would be more than willing to give you one...it should be on the water in late August. Â*Let me know and I can set you up with him.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yeah...I was that thread on HB and would really like to try that boat on Havasu to see if it is big enough to handle the weekend chop! Thanks for the offer! We'll be in Havasu at least two weekends in August so it would only be a coordination thing. I love the look and performance potential of the Bullet.

P.S. Once you drive Dr. Margarita's boat you'll change your mind about eliminator! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Essex502 @ July 09 2003, 11:33 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">P.S. Once you drive Dr. Margarita's boat you'll change your mind about eliminator! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Not a chance! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif I am very happy with my current boat and will have it for quite a while. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Unlike others on this board....I keep my boats for more than 1 or 2 years! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Mike - If you see posts about Dr. M's boat on the water and I forget about your wanting a ride....just remind me and I will set you up. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Essex502]

Cool! Thanks dude!

[Essex502]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ July 09 2003, 09:04 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">that 26 Lavey is beautiful!

What's this? An exodus from Essex?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
No exodus just that the middle sized Essex is Butt Ugly.

Wasn't the Lavey the boat the Hot Boat Magazine wouldn't name as the awful handling one they alluded to in an editorial?

[jrgaudettes]

When I spoke with Ty @ Lavey he had suggested that I get trim tabs with the boat. So who knows... I will have to research this further befroe in make up my mind.

[Essex502]

jr - get the tabs and external steering.

[Havasu Dreamin]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Essex502 @ July 09 2003, 11:58 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No exodus just that the middle sized Essex is Butt Ugly.

Wasn't the Lavey the boat the Hot Boat Magazine wouldn't name as the awful handling one they alluded to in an editorial?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I told Ron, owner of Essex, as much when he asked me what people were saying about the 25 Tempest. Personally the look has grown on me. If Essex stays true to form expect another new model next year or the year after.

Yes, that is what I heard that the Lavey. It was the one Hot Boat was talking about.